Hymn of the Dead - QoL

Waiden

This song could really be a useful tool when doing wipe recovery but the limitations placed on it make it way less useful of a tool. For instance, once we had a replacement healer on the way to our group in VoZ and they died somewhere along the way. Our healer needed to leave and we finally got a replacement but they died on the final stretch of the run from NH. I thought I could help out, by getting their corpse and drag it to our cleric before she left for a rez. The restriction of the corpse location song by having to have the dead person in the zone just means we have to wait for the now naked and helpless healer to try to make their run again from NH. Our cleric had to leave so our entire group was on hold while I tried to search for the corpse on my own. The healer tried to relay the location they were in, but I could not find them. I seem to remember in EQ the song would point the bard at the nearest corpse if you did not have a target. That would have been at least a bit more helpful. So I wait until the healer makes it to the zone line and I can see them in the group. I'm still out looking for their corpse in the middle of the zone. I think ok, great, at least I can target them now that they are in the zone and we can get their body back at least. Nope! You have to be nearby the player to target it properly for that song. So now I have to find them in the zone and ask them to stay still while I try to figure out where their body is. They think they know so they go running one way and my song is pointing me in another direction. We get separated and I once again am too far away to restart the song if needed. This just seems overly complicated and not as helpful as it should be. I know the SK and Necro versions of corpse recover work complete different. We have a unique song that still requires the bard to go into the dangerous area to retrieve the corpse, can we at least be given a chance to work on it before waiting for dead player to run all the way back?

Thanks for listening to my rant. I loved these quirky songs we had in EQ and look forward to more fun stuff like that being added. Bard is my favorite class and I can't wait to start my journey in MnM again in October.

Waffle_Goblin

Waiden The restriction of the corpse location song by having to have the dead person in the zone just means we have to wait for the now naked and helpless healer to try to make their run again from NH.

I suspect this is the point. If they cannot remember where they died they have to suffer the Walk of Shame.

jobanab

Waffle_Goblin Some zones are not too easy to get an exact fix on your location, especially if you die at night. Also quite true if you are new to the zone and don't know what to look for (oh hey i'm by the....rocks and sand). In VoZ in particular you might not be looking for landmarks when a stealth spider or two pops out and suddenly kills you.

Ashebear

If a dev sees this, here is a potential proposed solution that might not be difficult to implement: what if you can make the player an argument for casting the spell via macro/chat. So if hymn of the dead is in slot 1, you could do "/cast 1 dead_player_name" and have it work even if they aren't in the zone. Thoughts?

Waiden

Ashebear Not sure if that's the best implementation, but I'm not sure what is. That sounds great. Otherwise the usefulness is diminished. Anytime anyone in my group dies, regardless of where they are bound, I would like to start the recovery process. And until they make their way all the way back to me, its kind of pointless. They will insist on doing it by then or at least trying (and very likely dying again in doing so).