odz My main complaint was, Shamans where a highly capable, almost top tier soloer in WOW/EQ/Everywhere else, and druids are as well, even here, and this game has gutted them in that regard. It's not EQ or Wow though, dev's just have a different plan here, fine it's cool, i just won't ever consider them in their current form. Your argument was not true for EQ, but clerics where clerics there, not whatever they are here. It's pretty obvious that Clerics here are fast healers, druids are medium healers, and shaman are slow healers. Unlike EQ where clerics had CH, druids had Regen, and shared instant cast heals with shaman, and later had other healing methods like Skin like the wild, and shamans had torpor. Real, unique spells, instead of cookie cutter, poorly thought out, HOTS and just weaker/faster/slower versions of the same thing.