RIP DPS fighter...

Znack

Leum to me these comments seem like all the people who like the changes arent even considering to play or main fighter.
maybe its fun that fighter has a bad design with inbuilt social friction if you are a rogue main who got traumatized by all the classic wow warriors smoking you on the dps meters

in reality fighter is in a sad state, apart from the vengeance topic, you have almost no good/fun utility except wearing plate, one strong def cd, or a 6sec single target stun on 1min cd (inquisitor has a 6sec aoe stun on 14sec(?) cd btw, and even much more good utility), and the 'upside' is that, as the no-downtime tank, you cant take a break or your group has to stop pulling, while casters are afk for a min+ after using 5 spells, or healers alt tab semi afk healing you, or even as meele dps it doesnt really matter much if you stand at the mob afk autoing for a bit - you cant do that as tank if only one dps is pressing his buttons
i had all of these things happening quite often when leveling my fighter

of course... i could also afk and take breaks when grinding for many hours, but then again whats the point of being the no down time tank

Briggs

I'm coming at this not from a numbers side of things, but a player that enjoys playing games side of things.

Tanks need to be able to do offrole things. I think its important to not always be in the tanking position for a tank character. They don't need to be the best at dps, but they should be functional at it to some degree, or bring some other utility, Inquisitor and Paladin already do this in heals and CC. Fighter does not. Every class in this game has its main niche that it fills, and then something else it can do.... Except fighter. Fighter is shoehorned into tanking and only tanking. It needs to be functional as a DPS as well. That is its secondary utility.

Leum

Znack I will definitely have a Fighter alt, and I will be happy just tanking (which is fun). The Re-Works made everyone a bit weaker imo and that is the point. They want to make the game more challenging and fixed roles help with that as well. Based on White Damage being the magority of our DPS in general I would say FIghters are doing good DPS even if they cant spam their skills without Vengence.

Puma

Xyshina there were more fighters than rogues, spellblades, and archers. Was there an absolute ton? No. But there were people rolling fighter to be a dps over rogue and spellblade because it was doing more damage than those two classes while being substantially more durable while doing it, not to mention able to fill an additional role like tank. I never said I wanted it completely neutered to be horrible dps but it was indeed doing too much damage. Is it possible they over corrected? very possible yes.

Sylphy

Puma I'd agree. Having venge as a mechanic only obtainable while being hit punishes warrior disproportionately compared to other tanks. Other tanks have full access to their offensive kit while in an offtanking position or in an odd group comp with multiple tanking classes, warrior is uniquely singled out by these changes.

Meister

Well, could always add riposte to the game so non tanking fighters can attack from the front and eat ripostes =) Other than that, I got nothing to add.

Raybane

Briggs Inquisitor and Paladins are also shoehorned into tanking as that is what they do. They do add other things as well, but so does fighters with the additional DPS plus no need to sit and meditate. Inquisitors also struggles with the actual tanking role after the rework so are far worse off then fighters right now.

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