Help us test Post rework - current SK issues.

Kobayashi

Remove - Kick, Taunt - From my Spell bar... Then I can use the spells I don't.

Extract Strength - bad... at 45 you get 10 for 5 mins and the mob gets a minor debuff... Just get the STR buff from a Shammy. Maybe reduce length increase STR amount by at LEAST 2-3x.

If you take the pet, give us a dmg shield equivalent. If i had it now, with the str buff, and kick/taunt off my bar... Amazing.

Give us a summon, counter pally... Same with Necro's... MELEE NEEDS MOBILITY... 40-minute runs round trip with sow to level?

Shorten our cast times at higher levels... As of now they INCREASE... With all the NPC changes, were hopeless (kick, charge, stun, Damage shields, etc.) This is on top of the issue SK's already had casting in combat...

Damage terrible... Even our casted dots/direct are 20 levels behind dmg wise... Our big damage dot is 1/8th of mana pool. Maybe its worth it if it refreshes like Shadows... Let's not talk about named mobs with our low mana dot... they can't be snared... ZERO burst/AOE/Threat outside of casting.

No shield skills but can't Dual wield? Yet Fighter can DW and has shield skills?

"Harm Touch" - useless after 10,

SK's have to juggle, AGI, Stam/HP, STR, AC, Dex and INT.. GTFO.

HELP US TEST - How do we help test if we don't even know what the stats do. Even with reworks/changes in other classes, how do they test without knowing what's going on? Rework the class and leave the stats broken/unknown?? Then change how the stats work in the middle of all the rework chaos? Can we get some visibility into this? It's a black box for testing/bug reporting.

Love the game, keep up the hard work. Let me pay you some money so we can get some full-time staff to help yall.

-Kobayashi

Tsunamisan

Post rework? News to me. As far as I know they have not gotten their deep-dive yet. Meaning their rework isn't ready yet! Unless it was released and i missed it. If you are referencing this https://monstersandmemories.com/class-shadow-knight Then that is not the deep-dive finished version.

Proculus

Always thought that Harm Touch should have been a lifetap, but I wonder if it will even be in the revamp.

Kobayashi

Tsunamisan You are correct... Title is confusing but I can't update it. I am listing my current struggles and asking for more access to whats going once SK's are reworked.

Bruskie

Yeah, I definitely feel your frustration with some of the topics you’ve brought up. But at this point, I don’t think there’s much reason to keep posting about it until they do the class rework and we actually have something concrete to give feedback on.

I can tell you that pretty much everything you’ve brought up has already been said 20+ times over the past year. So I definitely feel for ya, brother.

At this point, we just gotta wait, let them cook, and see what they come up with. Then we can give them some real feedback once we have something to work with!

Bruskie
Cohesion

Dark

they have stated SK rework will be vastly different the good news is you will loose that useless pet but too little information is known about the rework to really comment on what direction they are taking . they say monster hunting class not sure about this and how its implimented

ThePanda

Bruskie bruuu bad news brother. They’re reworking us like the day before EA… or maybe after. So you’ll get the chance to roll the dice on SK and have no idea if the class is even functional 🙂 yay.

I agree with basically all of the above feedback. Rework to other classes has has negative impacts on SK so far.

ThePanda

Dark let’s stop calling the pet useless - which is ironic because i’m known to run around with bones named “useless” in game.

1) Use a level 1 pet to pull.
2) DPS when soloing is notable regardless of how crappy your overall DPS is, the pet is +30% at least
3) Sacrifice Minion is perhaps the SK’s most powerful move - good luck casting that without a pet.

Dark

ThePanda debateable but i respect your point of view. perhaps we have different play styles

NarcolepticLTD

ThePanda 3) Sacrifice Minion is perhaps the SK’s most powerful move - good luck casting that without a pet.

Honestly this spell will still work just fine w/o a pet summoned, it just needs to target the nearest Ranger for the sac requirement. doesn't have to be grouped, just which ever one is closest, most convenient.

Velthorian

There is no such thing as a "Damage shield Equivalent" to a pet. Those are completely different forms of damage and are not capable of replacing each other. One requires you to get hit, one does not. One works in all situations, one does not. Not MT? DS useless, fear kiting? DS useless. Think before you make suggestions, wont' even talk about off-label utility uses for pets, like farming green content for coin or crafting materials, where they are still highly effective and useful. Your level 60 sk pet will have no qualms running around smashing level 12 spiders, or level 30 humanoids, giving that up, is actually significant, also pets are sunk cost, pay for them once (mana, reagents) and they provide hours upon hours of continuous, resource free damage. How you gonna replace all that? -- No pets mean exactly that, no pets, and all the perks and benefits that come along with them, (even weak ones). Your now required to expend resources to kill stuff you otherwise could have slept though. You won't be sitting on your mount, eating a sandwhich while Jobbober wrecks half the zone and you clean up the loot. You've lost that ability completely. I seriously doubt whatever other mechanism implemented will make up for this, it's a huge nerf.