Ranger Deep Dive Discussion

MrThoughts

Others have said it, but I hope that this change doesn't make Ranger feel like Kermit typing. In my experience snare kitting in beta, the margin was pretty slim for getting hit. Against most mobs you wouldn't want to be going into melee for more than 1-2 hits, even if you only pulled 1 mob. I'm thinking specifically of yellow con drakelings in keepers bite.
Edit After re-reading the deep dive, I'm less worried about this making the Ranger high APM.

Brettanomyces

MrThoughts torch off hand would be sweet.

Ulf

Ogre Ranger was my top class during beta. With some of of the combat changes, It definitely felt like I didn't really have to tools to deal with packs of mobs. Tanglefoot is a move in the right direction. I also think there was a bit of a learning curve, coming from an environment where I was learning to play the game (in which it was much safer to pull) compared to having to adapt, at a higher, level to the post change environment.

Hopefully we can get some good data and provide feedback, now that we are starting in a fresh environment.

Des

Weird decision with DW restriction.

Though in my mind, they shouldnt be carrying such heavy weapons as a fighter/knight anyway. If were talking Aragorn, that was a 2lb longsword, usable with a single hand (as we often see). Looking at someone like the Mountain from GoT/ASoIaF, that seems more the flavour of 2H weapons overall in M&M.

I second interesting offhands, like torches, foci and stuff like parrying daggers and the like over just a second weapon.

SIPTAH

Des Aragorn using the good ol bastard sword. As much as I like DW it would be nice.to have a 2h option for swords snd spears

Keltickope

Ocellus

#1 really? You genuinely cant understand why anyone wouldn't prefer a high apm class?

I get preferring higher apm yourself.

But writing off opinions as simply being contrarian SIMPLY because they dont align with your opinion?

If I wasnt giving you the benefit of the doubt, Id call that tactic slimey.

But Im sure you didnt intend it that way

Keltickope

MrThoughts a torch offhand, would be sweet. And it would be awesome if it was even better than traditional weapon, in specific situations

But I think yall are missing the very intended design here.

The Darkness is game design. And forcing players to account for it. Plan for it. And critically… make the decision, for when a torches light out weighs a bit of offhand dps.

The game is not about rocking the most ideal dps all the time, its about the choices you make to survive within the world. The compromises you may have to make.

I get wanting to be able to see. 100% but Anyone expecting their stances on vision in darkness to let up, is setting themselves up for dissappointment

Premor

My only real complaint is I wish they would have had more interactions with the campfire. Able to choose different buffs that affects people in the range of the fire (maybe limit to being in the party). I also would have liked seeing something that could allow getting the campfire buff in the rain. Maybe also have more interactions with torches?

Other than that I'm pretty happy with it. I like the ranger previously so I'm liking all the new stuff. 100% going to have a ranger as my main character.

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